Our Analysis Of Victoriabrides.com & Their “Pay Per Email” Business Model
Posted on March 3, 2017 | By Dating Critic | 7 responses
Site Reviewed:
Victoriabrides.com
Summary Of The Scam:
- Ukraine Women Are Paid To Interact With Foreign Men To Use Up Your Credits
- Photos Are Most Likely Of Models
- Email Messages Are Most Likely Sent From Automated Bots Systems
Ukraine Women Are Paid To Interact With Foreign Men To Use Up Your Credits:
Victoriabrides.com is a new form of the original "mail order bride service" that was once used to meet beautiful Eastern women in countries like the Ukraine and Russia. With internet technology you no longer have to sift through mail order bride catalogs to view images of women. In the age of the internet you can register on a site like Victoria Brides and instantaneously be connected with beautiful Ukraine woman across the world. But is it all real or a scam designed to make you believe something that isn't real?
In this investigation allot of what we say it will be unfortunately circumstantial. The first thing we wondered and read about was if the women on Victoriabrides.com and other mail order bride sites are actually paid to chat with you as much as possible to burn through your "credits".
Victoria Brides doesn't offer a monthly membership instead you need to purchase an amount of credits so you can chat with women on the site so you can email them back and forth. This makes it possible for the site to make a lot more money using a credit-based system. A monthly membership would require you to pay roughly $30 for a month and you could email the women on the site back and forth and chat with as many females as you want for one set fee. On Victoriabrides.com that isn't possible. The idea that people are employed by Victoria Brides to string you along and chat with you as much as possible (sending as many emails as possible so you burn through your credits) seems very likely. For the record we don't have proof of this but from what we have researched online reading articles from insiders this definitely could be happening.
Sending an email costs you about $2 and so far we've received over 15 emails. To reply to those emails would cost us $60 and after those emails have been sent you can rest assured that more emails would be filling our inbox. We have read of men spending thousands of dollars chit-chatting and emailing Ukrainian women back and forth only to be let down in the end. If you're looking for a pen pal that's great but who the hell wants to spend $4,000 to chat with some girl halfway across the world when you can never even meet them? By the way this is called the "pay per letter scam" many sites has written about this practice. You pay for each letter you send.
Taken from the terms page section 7.i:
"The Service operates an algorithm for the automatic allocation of attention and activity. The algorithm automatically determines users with insufficient incoming and outgoing activity, and then sends from the user a welcome message to the most appropriate contact (another user of the Service, defined as the most appropriate contact for the user by the algorithm). The task of the algorithm is to allocate the attention and activity among users of the Service. Automatic messages generated by algorithm differ from the standard messages in style and are easy to sprawl."
Photos Are Most Likely Of Models:
From what we have read it seems that the email messages are not even written by the women in the member profile photographs. Instead they are written and emailed by employees of Victoriabrides.com. It could easily be happening unless you see the exact same girl from the photo on a live webcam chat with you, how would you ever know if you're emailing the girl in the photos? Something else we need to mention is that this is a multimillion-dollar industry and with that much money at stake it's easy to see the industry become corrupt with people trying to make a buck any way they can.
One reviewer on Sitejabber wrote the following review:
"It's all about getting your money. The pictures are beautiful but they are not the women you are communicating with and you will never meet the woman in the picture. Total scam."
It's a pretty easy con to set up. They take photographs of beautiful Ukrainian women upload them to a website such as Victoriabrides.com with the models profile information (age, hobbies etc…). From there you hire regular people who are employed by the company to sit at computer desks and write emails back and forth with members of Victoria Brides. How far fetched is this really, not too far in our opinion.
Email Messages Are Most Likely Sent From Automated Bots Systems:
This is something that we can prove. The terms and conditions of Victoria Brides states that they use automated algorithms to send people computer created email messages. Do you want to receive emails from an automated algorithm? Especially since it costs you $2 per email! The thing is if you don't even know they're using a computer algorithm program to send you automated emails very easy to burn through large amounts of money hoping that you'll find that special person. Unfortunately that special person happens to be a computer algorithm program and not a beautiful Ukrainian girl!
Taken from the terms page section 7.i:
"The Service operates an algorithm for the automatic allocation of attention and activity. The algorithm automatically determines users with insufficient incoming and outgoing activity, and then sends from the user a welcome message to the most appropriate contact (another user of the Service, defined as the most appropriate contact for the user by the algorithm). The task of the algorithm is to allocate the attention and activity among users of the Service. Automatic messages generated by algorithm differ from the standard messages in style and are easy to sprawl."
How To Contact The Site:
- By Phone:
- Address: Comunitainment Inc. (registered at 901 N Pitt ST STE 325, Alexandria, VA-22314, USA
- By Email: [email protected]
How To Cancel Your Trial & Monthly Membership:
If you want to cancel your paid trial or monthly subscription to this site you can use the various methods that we have listed below to do so. You can also read our cancellation tutorial that shows you step by step how to cancel your account and delete your profile on Victiria Brides.
- Cancel By Email: [email protected]
- Cancel By Phone:
- Cancel Membership:
Domain Registrant Info:
- Registrant Name:
- Registered: on December 4, 2013
- Hosting Company: Cloudflare, Inc
- Hosting Location: 101 Townsend Street, San Francisco, CA, 94107, USA
- Ip address: 104.20.70.72
- Name servers: HEATHER.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM, NED.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
- Registrant Email: [email protected]
- Registrant Phone: 1.4252740657
Other Sites On Same IP Servers:
Traffic Info:
- Unique Daily Visitors: 43,333
- Unique Monthly Visitors: 1,300,000
(traffic statistics from August 2016 to January 2017)
The Judgment:
First we would never recommend a mail order bride type of site such as Victoriabrides.com. The fact that you need to purchase credits to send and receive emails is scary. You can go through large amounts of money in a very, very small period time. We like traditional online dating site says charge you a flat monthly fee of about $30 to communicate, Chad and interact with other members on their dating service. Unfortunately Victoria Brides doesn't operate in this fashion and we personally would never spend any amount of money on it.
On top of that is the fact that we read so many negative reviews about mail order bride sites from Russia and the Ukraine that we would stay clear of that type of credit based online dating site. It's very easy for these operators to hire attractive looking young woman to take model photos and then upload those pictures to their website and then hire chat operators who sit at a desk between 4 and 6 hours per day and chat with members of the site helping them to go through their credits as quickly as possible. This seems very plausible to us.
Has anyone had experiences with using Victoriabrides.com? If you did we suggest that you leave a comment below and tell us how it went for you we're looking for good and bad reviews on how this site I'll praise. Did you find the love of your life or were you out thousands of dollars? Help us out and leave a comment below!
Find Legitimate Women Here:
If you want to find real women on genuine dating sites go here.
File Consumer Complaints & Report Abuse:
- File a consumer complaint to report financial losses to the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) as a result of purchasing a subscription to this service.
- Contact their hosting provider: site: Cloudfare.com, email: [email protected] or call: 1-650-319-8930.
I have been on this site for several months. I finally made a statement that I would need a face to face or Skype to know who I am talking to. They all declined and acted pissed off I should ask such a thing. The last straw was when I was writing one image and she said she loved chocolate. I looked it up and it was, all tolled, about $200 and it was crappy chocolates. I am finished with the site. Very dissapointed. I spoke on another similar site to a woman for a year and one half, flew to the Ukraine to meet her at the airport, she wasn't there and no more communications from her. Save your money and your heart, it is all a lie.
I've made a huge fool out of myself, and spent $thousands of dollars in the name of love. These people lead you on and some of the women are definitely frauds. You think you're doing a good job of choosing and they're not even vetted properly! I finally choose one woman who led me on until the exact day of her arrival. Right, no show. That lesson cost me $1,865! As P. T. Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute". Tough lesson, these lessons of the heart. No fool like an old fool.
Dean.
I used this site for about 4 months. I spent most of this time talking to one girl, but after a while i became suspicious. She sent a photo i could reverse scan which gave me her name. Turns out the photo was from a Ukrainian model. I got information about this person from her social media and then went back online. I tested the person id been messaging, asked what she did for a living, where shed been on holiday , etc. She failed every test. Best thing was on her facebook there was photos of her in paris with her boyfriend, taken at a time she was supposedly talking to me. I sent this fake some chocolates intrigued by what would happen.i was told id receive a photo when they were delivered. I did indeed receive a photo and it was in fact from the Ukrainian model but the look in her eyes of guilt and shame told its own story. The girls submit their photos but other people do indeed write for them.they are not there for dating, but commission. Worse still they froze my account and said they wouldnt unfreeze it unless i sent photos of my driving license and bank card.! I also had a women on the site offer to wire me money as long as i spent it through the site. So i encountered money laundering and identity theft and blackmail on this site. Its a con.
I had my suspicions about the site when I first joined in February and put on a profile and then consequently got bombarded with emails and messages. I made the expensive mistake of communicating with 1 of these beautiful women who said she wanted to meet me and even told me that her "mother" wanted to ask when I was going to propose to her!. I sent her a birthday gift, the cheapest one on the site- a bottle of pink champagne but it's still 300 odd credits and sure enough you are sent photos of her receiving the gift and message but you also have to pay a delivery charge of 100 credits. I'm angry with the site and told them what I though of them and wanted to leave the site which I actually have done 3 times! But you get lured back to stay when they offer you a loyalty bonus of anything from 20 to 500 credits.You also have to spend a ridiculous amount of credits- 3000 to get the lady's email address. We have exchanged emails but she won't give out her cellphone number and she can't Skype because she doesn't know enough English even though her English seems fine in the emails she sends me. Also Yahoo Messenger is a no no because her country block the site and prevent anyone from using it! Should have heeded the warnings. I have managed to delete my account on there and no money has been taken from my credit card since I made the last payment a month ago thankfully. I am from the UK so have spent over 2 grand on here which I say is near the two and a half thousand dollar mark .Have I heard from her since I left the site? No! This experience has put me right off dating and I leave the site as I entered it , lonely and miserable but also a damn sight poorer!
I have been a user of theVictoria Site site for some time and I'm in New Zealand.
Recently I had my Visa debit card details hacked from the site's client database. despite the site stating that ALL client details are secure and quoting 128 bit encription Visa transaction security.
Just last week an announcement on MSN(Microsoft News) stated that various third party Java based databased entities had been hacked including British Airways and some online ticket sales to rock concert events.
The dates coinsided with my card fraud.
Victoria Brides did nothing in response apart from crediting me 100 chat credits.
From accessing my Bank – receiving a print out of the entity's concerned and in conjunction with instruction from Visa Debit I approached each random .com company via their live chat site and demanded each pirated transaction be reversed and then "screenshot" each entities commitment to do so as evidence;again following Visa Debit advise.Under international fraud law you have to give these cyber theives an opportunity to make good before Visa attempts to prosecute.I am pleased to say reverse transfers were completed in under 24 hours.
I had ebough tenacity to barely have enough transaction funds in that account in the first place so we were talking under NZD$300 in total.
Back to Victoria Brides.
Direct access to a particular individual is subject to the individual on the site's desire to release those details so no guarantee and use to be 625 chat credits and or gifts to that amount.Now overnight it's 3000 which is just plain scamming income.
I don't do the letters,gifts or whotever gobbles credits.
Back to the 625 credits – I have on two occasions obtained direct access ph and email address.
My random phone call was rebuffed and brief and I was told "unexpected".
My direct emails were responded to several times and as recently she contacted me again through the site.
First date for contact was over 12 months ago aged 39
On another direct contact no response but plenty on the site claiming to be an air stewardess
Call me niave but from the outset I stated I was not flying out to Ukraine profiles & this probably wipes most meets out if indeed they are genuine
A conversation with a professional secretary stated "since the crises" my salary has been halved to $300 per month!
So get your head around that !
The ones – if they are actually genuine, and try the hardest already have a child and I'm not set up for "round 2" in that department.- I'm a businessman aged 60
Where there seems an element of realislm is with single profiles that are professional and have their own means but this is rarely found – I'm following a Russian phycologist aged 34 at the moment that "seems as though she's real.:
Claims she was unaware of pic & video download charges and tried to action specific interaction via the site at her end to no avvail & expressed what seems to come across a genuine empathy
I will know in several weeks as she's claiming to be fly out! scam or not
Like most cynics here I empathise with the ones spent up large & come away empty handed & that is why I am relaying my experience here,
Previous local girlfriend have been German(spoke 3 languages) aged 52 and a local woman aged 43.
I'm quoting these details so you know I'm no desperado or "glasshouse" guy!
Once you have been with an educated European woman it leaves Kiwi girls in the dust
It states on this reply box emails won't be published but as I have nothing to hide on here, here it is & I welcome any additional feedback [email protected]
I have been chatting to one woman for about 2 months now, sharing likes and dislikes, opening hearts to each other, past bad experiences etc.. This morning on 11/11/2020, I decided to send her a message first, as it was 0430am here in UK, thinking she would like to wake up to it! I immediately received a message back, but when I looked I noticed she was registered as “off line”, not connected! I asked her how this is possible, which while still “offline” she answered in a way to question my belief in her! I suggested that maybe she should log out and then log in again! 40mins later, low and behold, she shows as “online”! Maybe the person sending these messages had fallen asleep or had to wake her up! 2hrs have passed and no reply! What a scam!